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obama weighed down by a jobless rate higher than any incumbent seeking re-election since fdr win 323 electoral votes, sweep 8 of 9 battleground seats? as the republican party picks up the pieces and looks ahead to 2016, here are lessons hopefuls from both parties might want to keep mind. if you don't define yourself, your opponent will do it for you. romney let the president's early attacks on his personal wealth and business background go largely unanswered. romney's campaign argued after a long and expensive primary, they had to choose how to spend at the time, limited funds, and they had to claim it was better than defenses of his personal record. in the end, obama beat romney by ten points. on the economic values question that was this, which candidate is more in touch with people like you. 53% said romney's polauolicies d favor the rich. just 10% said that about the president's policies. and romney, the first republican nominee in the history of our poll to go into a convention with his personal rating under water and campaign with a painful number, just 47% of voters viewing hi
-tech multimillion dollar back room operation to identify every obama vote and then turn it out on election day? for finally, was the smartest obama decision just bring it in, bubba? >> no president, not me, not any of my predecessors, no one could have fully repaired all the damage that he found in just four years. chris: was that stacking the deck, mike? >> all good. the one they think wargs the brilliant one was betting that if they spent $150 million in nine or 10 states over the summer, it would pay dividends when the thing got tough. and they bet it when they didn't know they would have money later. chris: to bring down romney. >> as a rich plutocrat. they knew that would help them later if it got tight and it did get tight. obama told people in the summer what are you doing? what are you thinking? i want to keep it close now and win it in the debates. that's pretty much more or less how it turned out. >> except that first debate. chris: katty. >> the fact they managed to find voters where the romney campaign didn't even know voters were. this was an election republicans could have won. b
. do not vote for any incumbent, period. host: we are two years out from the next election. you say if this thing does not work, star of the campaign not to vote of the incumbents? caller: start it now. start the campaign now. they want to start campaigning earlier and earlier, we as the american people need to send a message now that if you cannot do it, if you cannot do your job, then we do not want you there. host: john in south carolina on the line for democrats. caller: the morning. listen very carefully. some of these people, they are all about money. ever since they are in office, some more against him. if i was the president and they do not do their job, i would come to the american people and say, listen, let's spend enough money to pay ourselves out of debt and start from scratch. all of those jobs will come back from china because the dollar will not be worth. that is what is it is a bout. host: on the front page of "the financial times." we also have a tweet. this is what the senate minority leader said yesterday on the floor after his meeting at the white house. [video
because he's not worried about the general election. he's worried about a primary election like a rand paul. >> and the other -- >> by the way, he is from rand paul's state. it's possible. >> he is. the other thing to keep in mind is boehner's speakership vote is up on january 3rd. >> but you -- everybody keeps saying that, but to vote against the speaker who is the caucus nominee, let's face it, he is the nominee of the republican party. to not vote for the speaker is a major act of betrayal on the part of any member of the congress. you have to that day -- >> the idea if he goes and forces through a tax increase, they could express their dissatisfaction, their unhappiness, by not voting for him for speaker. it takes a majority of the full house for him to get elected. a couple dozen of those guys -- >> i know this stuff. >> for the sake of the viewers. >> but for the sake of me, there used to be a sense of doing the right thing, and by the time you're the party nominee for speaker, you vote for the party nominee for speaker. you don't just screw around with this thing because that wo
. in the last week of the election, the obama campaign paid $550 for a single ad in raleigh, north carolina. the romney campaign had to sell out $2,665. the obama campaign bought it way ahead of time. lesson two, the republican brand needs a hard look. the gop favorable rating underwater for two years. it's been nearly five years and the final poll, full poll before the election, just 36% of registered voters said they had a positive view of the republican party. 43% held a negative view. the democratic party's favorable rating in positive territory. though just barely at 42%-40%. more than 20 republican primary debates put immigration on full display. so now as the party debates to modernize, it has to repair the image. and that leads us to lesson three. demographics are destiny. romney won a higher percentage of the white vote than any candidate since ronald reagan in 1994 beating obama among white voters. by 14 points among white women. five points among independents. he won all the groups by more than george w. bush did in 2004. but he lost the election by a wider margin than john kerry
the government, the government suggested you can have our election with them are in the class, and they did a film, and it's absolutely priceless. i mean, the parents, they didn't have to do it because the teachers were not shy to do it. they would make this mistake or that little thing and they would have this comical elements but the students got interested. they got interested. they ended up collecting a monitor. i'm how good the monitor was. but it was all right. it was all right. and so there are ways i think, which are more likely to think of that i am. of taking these different ideas and say try to settle here or try it out over there. you are building the bar, and it's true that there are, none of these things, everything has its drawbacks. move along. >> final two questions. this gentleman right here, and back their. >> ninety. i've been involved in studying practicing chinese law for the last 45 years. i just want to say on a positive note you, justice breyer and also i think others talked and plenty differently which about changing a legal culture in china. and it wanted to menti
closer election. but people took it personal and i think it really became a tipping point. >> and to take something from people that was earned and gained with such sack ra fiesz. . >> now it's time for a light ning round. quick answers, please. you hear me, richard? the spot light award. this revvie gos to the movement that defined the 2012 campaign. >> it has to be the 47% video. >> health care law up head. >> hitrichard? >> sandy. >> i'd have to go 47%. that was the moment. >> no question, 47%. so that's the one that got so far, the most consensus. we have a lot more to k078. stick around, we'll be right back. >> first, earlier today, the revvie was awarded for best musical performance. the nominees were. ♪ ♪ for purple mountains majesty ♪ above the fruited plain . ♪ i'm so in love with you >> and the revvie went to governor chris christie. congratulations, governor. the revvies will be right back. ? how do you measure happiness?] by the armful? by the barrelful? the carful? how the bowlful? campbell's soups give you nutrition, energy, and can help you keep a healthy
, in turn, helped mobilize women and kick off that women's movement for the 2012 election. and, yet, he stepped back. when the church came up and said i'm going to put the onus on the health care company, he came out having his cake and eating it, too. >> so the contraception move by the president, way back in march? >> you know, and then you have the susan g kohman. >> so you saw the women's movement and the war of women by the republicans. jonathan? >> speaking of planting the seed, my vote for best political move is the obama campaign's decision to hammer mitt romney as an out-of-touch politicalcrat from almost the very beginning. everyone was yelling from the beginning why are you doing this? when the 47% video was released, it made a powerful video even more powerful because it confirmed everything that the obama campaign had been saying about the republican nominee from moment one. >> crystal? >> three words. please proceed, governor. the second debate after the president had a lackluster performance. in the second debate, he really came out swinging and mitt romney thought he had
telling than just what one election result might suggest. >> well, i think it certainly does and it gives him a certain platform and credibility that perhaps he didn't have before. but watching as these fiscal cliff negotiations have gone through the holidays, it certainly is perhaps a little bit more of a bully pulpit for the president and for his position on taxes. but i think the biggest story of the year came at the end of the year in the past week or so which is the massacre at sandy hook elementary school in newtown and i think the presidency now might be shaped by those events and those are the stories that both barnicle and andrea have chose n as the top story. would you agree this could be a signature for the second term? >> i to do. i do agree with that. i think the events of a few days ago in newtown, connecticut, will help shape a good portion of the president's second and final term in office. i think it gives us a huge impe it tus to changes in this country that had had taken too long to take hold. i think the presidency itself, i think the man himself was shaped and altered
in the general election with the latinos, who he got blown out and provided a huge margin in the swing states. >> that is a good point, my point is, of course, the anonymous video operator, who captured the 47%, which is why we happen to have the tape. why it happened to be ready. now, the best move of 2012. what was the best move of 2012? >> this is really hard, because some part of me as a political junky thinks the best move is the crazy thing. and for that, i would give it to mitt romney actually moving across the stage and grabbing rick perry, this kind of physical debate style he also had that revealed him to be crazy and not driven by the same things that most humans are driven by. but sort of the competitive work force bought. but i think at tend of the day e keep going back to the 47% -- >> it is everything. >> the release of that. and the timing of that changed the contours of the race, forever. >> and we don't really know who is responsible for that timing. krytal, the best move. >> the best move, goes to the point about immigration, the president, when he gave a press conference s
? >> well, sadly mitt romney not only because he lost the election, because he went out with the same kind of comment that got him in trouble in the first place talking about giving people obama winning over voters because he gave them gifts kind of hurt the party on his way out. >> clarence? >> you beat me to the tea party but the old saying goes populous movements are like bees they sting and then they die. i think the sting of the tea party is over. >> that's a good axiom. is it yours? >> i'll take it. >> is it in the glossary? >> i'll go look it up. >> okay. i like it. destined for political oblivion in 2013. vice president join. -- joe biden. even if he runs in 2016 for the presidency. >> named the head of the whole gun thing. >> i'm telling you -- this position. >> we'll have to wait. >> his political style is seen unfortunately for him as too aseckic for broad appeal. maybe you should talk to his wife about running for president. his wife is terrific. >> he may or may not run for president, john. but a lot of people love joe biden. he's an authentic voice and democrats in particular
is these lawmakers were elected to make tough decisions and they haven't been able to do it it yet. >> if i may say so, it's also childish. thank you. >>> the longest-serving member of congress from massachusetts is the first to announce he'll run for john kerry's senate seat. ed markey was just elected to his 19th term with 76% of the vote. kerry, as you know, is president obama's pick to succeed hillary clinton as secretary of state. if and when he's confirmed, that senate job will pass to a replacement chosen by the massachusetts governor. then to a win ere of a special election a few months later. a regular election will be held in 2014 when kerry's term would have ended. >>> should teachers be armed in the classroom? big question, lots of answers. about 200 educators in utah are mulling that over today after attending classes on firearm use and safety. the course of geared toward teachers. instructors are not trying to persuade teachers to carry guns in schools, but to provide the information and training they need in the wake of the newtown massacre. the classes have been going on for some ti
to commu communicate with their elected representatives and let those elected representatives know that the people want to see a deal that is fair to the working and middle class people. that's what the president is saying. i think the president is correct to do so. and i think that the -- you know, that senator reid has been really clear. we should be there working hard to get a fair bargain. and i'm glad the president is basically turning up the temperature. >> see, that's what i read, melissa. i think that one was to update the public. but another is to say if they play passed the deadline, you get in touch with your senator because i'm going to have them call the roll. >> well, so, part of it is about that public pressure. but the other part of it, when the president calls on speaker boehner to do that, what he's saying is speaker boehner, put the good of the country before your job. the majority is all of the democrats and a few republicans, enough to get it through. but boehner, as a speaker, does not want to bring anything to the house floor for a vote that does not have a m
've been asking you, our viewers, to send in your thoughts, your messages to elected representatives. so let's close tonight with some advice from one of you to washington. >> my message to all of washington for the new year is to set partisanship aside working on behalf of 100% of the voters, fix this mess you've gotten us into, bring a balanced budget to the table to grow this economy for the long term not the short term. >> there you go. for the long term, not the short term. >> there you go. i'm don lemon. happy new year to you. jooirksz . >>> hello, i'm don lemon and this is cnn's top 10 of 2012. we look at the stories that captured our attention, what we see as the biggest stories of the year around the world, in crime, money, weather and even the biggestscandals and later this hour, those stories chosen by you. anchor of state of the union, candy crowley, with the top ten political stories of 2012. >>> like finding your favorite grain of sand on the beach. impossible number of possibilities. catch phrases become boomerangs. >> if you got a business you didn't build that. >> i like
and officials and the plitscle institutions to do the job they were elected to do. we've got some significant issues facing this country and they're all going to come to the forefront next year and if we can, as you say, resolve this issue at this moment in time, how can we come to grips, you know, with tax reform and entitlement reform and debt ceiling, a budget we haven't passed in three years, another budget that expires in march of next year? so these are overwhelming issues and, of course, the world community looks at the united states and says, why can't the united states of america and its elected officials come together to address the big issues of our time? >> senator, you know, a lot of the commentary and some books have been written say, this is on the republican party here. basically the republican party in the house, but many, many people blame republicans for this, for being intransigent on your side about judgeships, about any number of things. do you think your party has erred on the side of partisanship and turned its back in some cases on the country? >> i think that's certa
opposed to any tax increase and senator mccobb nell is up for re-election in 2014 where tea party rebellion toppled his own protÉge and instead, send rand paul to the senate. i'll bring in nbc news capitol hill correspondent, kelly o'donnell. >>> waiting for action here today. >> reporter: it seems pretty quiet at the moment, steve. it's one of those things where you feel like something big is going to happen but as you walk through the corridors here, it seems pretty quiet at the moment. >> well, we have all sorts of conflicting reports out there about what the broad framework would be if there's going to be a deal. i guess the big stumble bling block is number one, what is the fresh hold be for the tax income? $250,000 which obama originally proposed? $400,000 which he supposedly offered in a revised offer a week ago? and then, of course, the status of the sequester. we have $1.2 trillion in cuts over ten years, half from defense and half from nondefense discretionary spending. is there any indication if there's a deal today what they're talking about in terms of those two issu
at some of the most memorable presidential moments of this election year. >>> president obama and senate members will be here in washington tomorrow, but we'll be hearing crickets on the house floor. nbc news has learned the republican leadership has not given representatives the 48-hour notice to return to work, another sign of inaction on the fiscal cliff front. joining me now for our daily fix, mr. jonathan capehart, msnbc contributor and "washington post" editorial writer. jonathan, we're just six days away, no indication from house republicans that they are going to come back any time soon. the leadership has gone mum on that. we know there's not been communication between boehner and mcconnell, obama and boehner. are you amazed with this short amount of time to go there seems to be no sense of urgency on either side? >> am i amazed, given what we went through with the debt ceiling, no, i'm not amazed. i think there are forces here in this town that would like for us, sure people would like for there to be a deal, but going over the cliff on january 1st when there's this notion wher
you're telling yourself out of this election?" >> whew, it was bananas watching that election. but i think probably the thing that comes out most forcefully after the election is how little people were expecting the voting, the sort of, the electoral body that made obama's victory possible. i mean, i think there was -- no one was talking about the sort of numbers that showed up for obama. no one was predicting the diversity of the vote. no one was predicting that sort of the republican strategy for securing a romney victory would come to grief so kind of spectacularly. i mean, i'm telling you. even the communities who came out to vote, i think, were shocked by their own numbers and by their own power. i mean, when you look at the cuban community in florida, a community that has historically voted super conservative and suddenly see an entirely new generation voting, and you see those numbers that they put up for obama. it was extraordinary. and i think that a lot of folks have very poor sense of what's happening in this country on the ground. i mean, they're kind of all the way up he
.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. today, we look back at 2012, and the most expensive election in u.s. history. president obama defeated mitt romney forcing the republicans to reconsider their policies among others returning women and immigrants. while the major party presidential candidate did not take on fossil fuel, climate change in any of their debates, it was a year of extreme weather from melting of the arctic to superstorm sandy to the massive typhoon in the philippines. 2012 will also be remembered for a series of mass shootings from aurora, arata, to the sikh temple, to be shooting in newtown, conn.. the case around trayvon martin sparked national protest after officials refused to arrest george zimmerman. president obama continues his secret drone wars. we spend the hour looking back at the moment and movements that shaped 2012. >> democratic congresswoman gabrielle giffords has announced she will step down this week. she was shot in the head last year in a shooting spree that left six people dead in tucson. >> thank you for your prayers and for giving me the time to
elected, he would have strained things much better than they are now. that is part of the problem. host: what -- caller: character, honesty. host: mitt romney is your choice. caller: that is about it. host: patrick is next. caller: my political hero is president obama. host: why so? caller: he has gone through a lot. he has kept his cool during the course of the year. i look forward to him doing better. host: one thing that stands out as far as his accomplishments. caller: bringing the end to osama bin laden. i think he has done very well. he has been patient and the adult for working with the republicans that tried to make everything for the country. host: president obama amongst others being listed this morning from the phones and facebook and twitter. after thestory passing of senator daniel in a the washington times." host: the code of hawaii -- the governor of hawaii possibly been the replacement for daniel inouye, reported by cbs news. picking up on the remaining time and before the next senate, comes in. president obama spoke on friday and talked about the senator's service and h
steps that he could discipline his colleagues in this conference, all of whom were elected as republicans on the republican ticket, or the notion that people have been dreaming about since 2009 that the tea party will dry up and blow away. these tea party activists are people with long standing commitment to ideals and note their activism matters. they will be there and the next election cycle. >> that was former house majority leader dick armey. freedomworks has been pivotal force behind the victories of tea party candidates are recent years. the money for dick armey's exit came from illinois billionaire richard stephenson, founder of the for-profit cancer trim centers of america. he was reportedly behind more than $20 in donations funneled to the freedomworks super pac in the weeks before the 2012 election. for more we're joined by kenneth vogel "democracy now!" videostream. he recently wrote an article, "inside the dick armey, freedomworks split." welcome to "democracy now!" dick armey came down with an armed guard to try to take over his organization? >> is a bizarre st
for election. everybody else is pretty much locked in whether we go over the cliff or not. is it thelma and louuisuise or laverne and shirley? they all place their bets a year-and-a-half ago. the election decided it. host: thank you for the call. bill has this point. we are down to the wire in terms of negotiations. jackie is joining us from georgia. caller: good morning. i cannot believe i got through. i have been trying for so long. host: thank you for being persistent. caller: the guy from the newspaper is wrong. we are not stupid. we know what is going on. i am 71 years old. i'm so worried about going down and being a third-world country. john boehner has to get his act together. he is not worried about anything. and the tea party -- give me a break. they are not worried about anything but taking us down. i still cannot believe i got to talk to you guys. thank you for listening. if obama could run again, i would vote for him again. he wants to do something. the republicans do not. if a republican was in the white house, there would not be any worry about paying for sandy, unemployme
had no hope. however illusory, that the next election or the other party might turn things around. in fact, there were no elections this absence. authority resided with the teen and parliament. columnist complained that their political leaders were out of touch and it was not a rhetorical florist. no taxation without representation would ultimately become the rallying cry for a war against the most formidable military power on earth. given our current sorry economic circumstances, and bellicose political rhetoric might have its appeal. we could also a member that the exhortations of our forefathers were made on behalf of the desired to forge a nation or group of colonies that even then comprised quite disparate interest. winters and farmers and merchants. slaves, indentured servants and persecuted minorities of all kinds. even after the nation was forged, tough times and were well into the succeeding century. but the citizenry was united in the common purpose to enter into succeeding. to those who forged a system of government, nothing was more important than the maintenance of th
't understand how these people cannot do their jobs that they're elected to. so i'm wondering what's your take on what's going on in washington? you're sitting in washington. >> right. the at least we have bipartisan agreement it's all nuts, right? everyone agrees this is ridiculous and in spite of what they say, they've been talking about it for months and years and there was ample talk about what a framework should be through the election, which wasn't that long ago. there's plenty of debate. to tie the two stories we have been talking wiabout together, there was a colin powerful doctrine that general schwartzkopf executed so well in the first gulf war. which was have an exit strategy and using overwhelming force. this congress had an exit strategy. they had the idea of overwhelming force, and they set themselves these limits. if they got through this deadline the pain would be so great on themself -- this is self-imposed -- they would find a way out. they have not executed their own strategy and been able to vote for their own leadership. what you have in washington just to take a step back
for holding elected officials feet to the fire. my party and colleagues and myself included it is frustrating as a house member. i can't be a house member and senator and president all at once. the house has led. we have tried to be the party of ideas. the body of ideas. as you know this summer we passed a bill to keep tax rates low for everyone. it has been dead in the senate. harry reid won't take it up. after the election john boehner got criticism even from my party saying look, mr. president we will meet you halfway and give you the $800 billion in revenue and the president doubles the number. then last week he said all right let's try and get as many after hostages out alive and try as keep taxes from going up and we couldn't get a single democrat to join with us on a single bill introduced this summer which was saving all taxpayers a million dollars and below from the tax rates going on. not a single democrat would join with us. this didn't a problem of two well intentioned negotiators not able to come up with a deal. this is the house having to negotiate with itself and the president
. here's how mitt romney explained why he lost to president obama just days after the election. >> what the president's campaign did was focus on certain members of his base coalition, give them extraordinary financial gifts from the government, and then work very aggressively to turn them out to vote, and that strategy worked. >> that explanation got mitt romney attacked and condemned by the likes of bobby jindahl and other republicans. they're now trying a new approach. tag romney said this about his father. he wanted to be president less than anyone i knew in my entire life. he had no desire to run, says tag, who worked with his mother and to persuade his father to seek the presidency. if he could have found someone else to take his place, he would have been ecstatic to step aside. too bad he never told newt gingrich that. joining me now, msnbc's joy reed. i'm on the verge of feeling sorry for them, trying to come up with these crazy reasons about why he lost. and now they want to pretend that this guy who lived his whole life in order to run for president didn't really want to run f
hit do it at the end of an election season, rather than at the middle, so -- >> the economy takes a hit. there are a lot of economists who believe. i guess i would put myself in this camp if we don't get this resolved for several months. and sometimes these political fights go on and on. because jessica is right, this is at the core of what these go parties believe in. i do think that the tax increases could possibly cause a dreaded double-dip recession. and that would really hurt families. >> so if we don't have to push the panic button new year's day, when does it harmful when you're sitting at home looking at this thinking what is going on? when does that person in peoria or boise feel the effects? >> i think starting at the end of the month, next month. and if these guys can't get it together we're going to have to totally change the family finances. because we don't know how much taxes we'll pay for the average middle class family, candy, we're talking about through the year. 2,000 to $2,500 increase on their tax bill. >> that is plenty more. steven, by the way, thinks they c
any doubt in my mind. there are looking at the election of 2014 and 2006 to more than the people. thank you for your time. pfft host: good morning to you, elmer. what is your level of optimism heading into 2013? caller: i am kind of scared. the statement i went to bed, why do we not get in contact with george bush. i think he should be in here on the deal because it was him and that got us in this position we are in. he cannot even tolerate position said they have going on with our congress. if the people out here for us to be taking care of, if they have enough money to take over to another country the way they demonstrate, that is what we are in this position that we are in. i think we should get in contact with george bush and see if he can get us out of this. host: here is a piece in "the washington post." if there is a photo of the first couple greeting military personnel. this is the president remained largely out of sight golfing and spending time with his family. he left washington late on friday. a little progress has been made on the cliff talks, but at least the talkin
up the news of this holiday. then, part two of our conversation about upcomingin elections: house races in illinois and south carolina, an high-profile politics in new jersey. we have two health stories. first, are annual mammogramswn necessary? betty ann bowser examines theil conflicting answers.or >> it's going to result in an excessive treatment required for people that delay getting their cancer >> ifill: plus, 2013 will be am pivotal year for the new health care reform law. ray suarez gets an update from julie rovner of npr. from the island of mindanao in the philippines, fred de sam lazaro profiles a group of peacekeepers struggling to maintain a fragile cease-fire between government and rebel forces.o >> there are many other organizations that do medical care and food provisions. never enough. what is new here is civilians protecting civilians. >> ifill: itn's john sparks reports on police officers in china, and their accusations of widespread corruption by local officials. and jeffrey brown samples the poetry about greece's financial woes and its austerity meas
the election itself which was a big victory. but, you know, those victories are going to have to be preserved and we know there's going to be more on a lot of those issues coming in 2013. the states have to implement obama care. we have seen republican governors dragging their feet on that. isn't there a danger some of these gains can be lost. in addition to some of the things the president has on the table, we also have some other things that still need some work? >> right. and health care and on gay rights in particular, marriage equality, those are things that are almost out of the president's hands, especially when it comes to what the supreme court is going to do. republican governors are dragging their feet on implementing obama care. i'm not sure what the president can do to cajole them into complying since the supreme court ruled that he couldn't coerce them by threatening their medicare funding, medicaid funding. again, when it comes to gay rights and what the court is going to do, you know, i think the administration along with everything else has to wait and see what the court rule
congress in history? >> the public is implicated in this. 2008 the public elected president obama, democratic house, democratic senate. 2010, a large number of people in the public changed their minds they got angry at us over health care, which was misunderstood, angry at us because we inherited a section that we weren't able to defeat because of their obstruction. in 010 -- in most democracies that would be it. we have a constitution under which it's called the staggered powers, checks and balances, the last three elections are there. the problem is in 2008 you had one group of people elected, in 2010, another. there wasn't simply the people in 2010 were conservative. very substantial number of the people elected as republicans in 2010 do not believe in governance. they do not understand there are things we need for the quality of life we have to come together. this isn't bob dole. this isn't howard baker. this isn't ronald reagan. these are people that are quite extreme. what's happened is that many republican whose believe in compromise and trying work things out some defeated
electe electeelected from swing districts, but it now there are only 35 such seats, and we have to make it through another eight years essentially of this partisanship. is that the problem? >> look at ohio, just for a minute. they had a race for congress there, like in every other state this fall, they voted about 52-47 republican-democrat for congress women and men. so you would think maybe a if i felt-50sto-up of congress, maybe 60-40. it's 12-3, republican-democrat, because of the way both sides-- >> o'donnell: gerrymandered district. >> and john boehner controls the ohio legislature. so they all kind of reap what they've sowed here. these are almost impossible-to-defeat congressmen in their districts. so some of that is gerrymandering. but i think another thing to remember here we've just been through this sort of six-week, eight-week drill on this fiscal cliff, and most of the conversation has been about taxes and the white house has done an excellent job, by dealing with the house, and all the messaging today and the weekend about how this is about republican intransigence on taxe
sticking to 250 campaigned on openly, overtly. he won the election on it overwhelmingly on that issue, 60% of the public was with him. so that is our position. it's a position that brings in more revenues and what we have learned at the fiscal situation deteriorated if you go much higher than 250 to raise the rest of the revenues you need you're going to hurt the middle class as you take away their tax deductions. >> but you said back then -- >> the right place to be. >> you said back then it would affect too many small businesses. frankly, sounds a little like senator kyl. >> the bottom line is very, very simple and that is that if you do -- if you go much above 250 you'll hurt the middle class even worse and small businesses even worse by having to take away tax deductions. that's not the place we were at two years ago. it is the place we're at now because the situation is deteriorating. >> it's exactly the opposite. the higher you set that level, the less small business you're going to hit and you're exactly right and chuck was right back when he talked about a million because the incr
on it for us. for more on this let's bring in the editor of "campaigns & elections" magazine, shane deapril. campaigns and elections might be appropriate here because some say there is a lot of political posturing going on. you have said the feeling in washington it might actually be better to go over the cliff and come back and negotiate. why? >> yeah. now, this is of course purely political campaign calculation here, tossing aside the nation's fiscal health frankly. for both side i think there is good argument to be made for congressional leaders, democratic leaders and republican leaders in particular, there may be less political risk here actually if we do go over the cliff and figure out a solution very quickly afterwards. if you go back to what happened with plan b, speaker boehner could not get, get that through his caucus in the house simply because you have many republican members sitting in very conservative districts who would absolutely not vet for anything that could put them at risk of a primary challenge in a year from now. frankly, for a lot of those members, voting for plan
predictable political problem. this is the cover of "the washington post" the day after the election saying time to deal with the debt. everybody knows it. that was the whole idea, right? this was the big plan. election year is too divisive to get anything done. just kick the lame duck. so what happened? why can't congress find a way to work together, even with a gun at their head? >> because they don't get along. i think it may have been naive of some of us to think that the election was going to be the magic formula and they would play well in the sand box after the election. what's it going to take? i think it's going to take for us to go off the cliff and the american public demanding action. i think we're going to see that over and over again. it's going to be the american public demanding action on gun control. it's going to be the american public demanding action on immigration because we have to force them to act. >> but american public also has to stop acting as if they play no role in this. when you look at our politics over the last 20 years, if you were a moderate democrat and i
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